or do you share john mccain's view? >> well, i share john mccain's view that it's not possible. the debate we're having is about the technology, the drone technology. but the laws and the constitution that the president has to abide by haven't changed. so whether it's a drone or a machine gun, it's the same laws that apply. the president can't use lethal force against an american citizen. you know, unless that citizen is an enemy combatant or engaged in terrorism. so nothing has changed here except for the use of technology. >> but let's be clear. one of the reasons that rand paul did this was the fact that that question was put to the administration repeatedly, and it did not answer it. and there was a reason for him to ask, to press this point. it had been raised in brennan's confirmation hearings. and no one would answer that question as forthrightly as stephanie just did. that was the principle he was upholding there. michael steele, in the end, we've talked about ways in which there are fissures being exposed on the republican side. stephanie pointed out there's also fissur